Good morning brother.
Character Study Series: Wrestling with God. We don't wrestle with flesh and blood.
Topic: Jacob Gen. 31, 32
Summary:
Wrestling with God is asking him for what we want, persisting in prayer, crying out to him for ourselves and others. There can be no detachment or apathy in wrestling; it involves direct and constant contact. When we wrestle, we believe that our cries and prayers matter. We have hope that our situation will change. We are fully engaged.
05:08:54 From Harry to Elvin Ramos (direct message):
Good morning brother.
Character Study Series: Wrestling with God. We don't wrestle with flesh and blood.
Topic: Jacob Gen. 31, 32
Summary:
Wrestling with God is asking him for what we want, persisting in prayer, crying out to him for ourselves and others. There can be no detachment or apathy in wrestling; it involves direct and constant contact. When we wrestle, we believe that our cries and prayers matter. We have hope that our situation will change. We are fully engaged.
05:09:09 From Harry to Matthew (direct message):
Good morning brother.
Character Study Series: Wrestling with God. We don't wrestle with flesh and blood.
Topic: Jacob Gen. 31, 32
Summary:
Wrestling with God is asking him for what we want, persisting in prayer, crying out to him for ourselves and others. There can be no detachment or apathy in wrestling; it involves direct and constant contact. When we wrestle, we believe that our cries and prayers matter. We have hope that our situation will change. We are fully engaged.
05:16:09 From Juan Wyatte to Everyone:
Zoom Battle Prayer Monthly Fund:
Dennis Thicklin:❤️
05:21:05 From Harry to Scott Moffat (direct message):
Good morning brother.
Character Study Series: Wrestling with God. We don't wrestle with flesh and blood.
Topic: Jacob Gen. 31, 32
Summary:
Wrestling with God is asking him for what we want, persisting in prayer, crying out to him for ourselves and others. There can be no detachment or apathy in wrestling; it involves direct and constant contact. When we wrestle, we believe that our cries and prayers matter. We have hope that our situation will change. We are fully engaged.
05:24:25 From Patrick to Everyone:
Wrestling with God is alot like Captin Kirk asking Scotty for 105% on the reactor.....105% is possible but not recommended.
Manny Ramos, Juan Wyatte, Dennis Thicklin:❤️
05:40:06 From Dennis Thicklin to Everyone:
#ARealChristian 💪🏾❤️📖🙏🏿
05:46:58 From Manny Ramos to Everyone:
I will not quit. Therefore I will not be defeated.
Meeting summary for Manny Ramos's Personal Meeting Room (12/10/2024)
Quick recap
The team discussed the concept of wrestling with God, using the example of Jacob, and its significance in personal and spiritual growth. They also emphasized the importance of perseverance, resilience, discipline, forgiveness, and holding onto one's birthright, drawing from biblical stories and personal experiences. The conversation ended with a reflection on the importance of seeking God's presence and guidance in all situations.
Next steps
• All attendees to study and reflect on the life of Elijah in preparation for tomorrow's discussion.
• All attendees to consider how Elijah wrestled with God before the next meeting.
• All attendees to prepare for discussing Jonah's life on Friday.
• Jack to be supported and prayed for by the group during his current life challenges.
• Nicholas Gutierrez to be prayed for regarding his surgical procedure and struggle with addiction.
• All attendees to practice forgiveness in their daily lives as a way to show love.
• All attendees to continue persevering in seeking God and holding onto His promises.
Summary
Wrestling With God" Series Discussion
The meeting began with a worship session led by Harry, followed by a prayer led by Manny. The group then discussed a new series titled "Wrestling with God," which will be a character study of people in the Bible. They expressed their excitement for this new series and thanked God for the opportunity to gather together. The conversation ended with a prayer led by Harry, seeking God's guidance and blessings for the day.
Wrestling With God for Transformation
Manny led a discussion about wrestling with God, using the example of Jacob, who wrestled with God and was given a new name, Israel. Manny emphasized the importance of wrestling with God in a way that leads to transformation and a deeper relationship with Him. He also encouraged the participants to share their thoughts and experiences through the chat function or by raising their hands. Manny reminded the group about the upcoming worship session on Mondays and the new pilot program on Wednesdays. He also encouraged the group to use the Spot Fund to help each other, especially during the Christmas season.
Jacob's Transformation and New Names
Manny discusses resetting the Zoom battle prayer program for the new year, allowing everyone to participate again. Harry reads from Genesis 32:22-32, describing Jacob wrestling with God and receiving the new name Israel. Harry notes how God changed Jacob's name from "deceiver" to Israel. Johnny highlights Jacob's persistence in wrestling with God all night to receive a blessing, and how God gives new names symbolizing changed lives, like with Abraham and Peter. Manny is struck by how Jacob, known as a deceiver, struggled with God and had his name and identity transformed, earning respect from others who would not eat the strained tendon in remembrance.
Persistence, Resilience, and Discipline
The team discussed the concepts of persistence, resilience, and discipline. Manny clarified that persistence and resilience are closely tied, with persistence being the intentionality of sticking with something through difficult times, and resilience being the ability to bounce back from setbacks. He also suggested that discipline is a byproduct of persistence and resilience. Dennis added that persistence and resilience are resources that can be used for good or ill, depending on what one is persistent and resilient towards. Scott emphasized the importance of staying connected with God to know what to persist and be resilient in. The team also discussed the biblical concept of Jacob's ladder, which represents the divine connection between God and the earthly realm. The conversation ended with Juan sharing his thoughts on the concepts of persistence and resilience.
Perseverance, Resilience, and Breaking Cycles
The team discussed the importance of perseverance, resilience, and discipline in their personal and spiritual lives. They used the example of Jacob, who demonstrated these qualities in his pursuit of God and his determination to overcome challenges. The team also reflected on the consequences of not breaking generational cycles of behavior, using the example of Esau's actions towards Jacob. They concluded by emphasizing the need to submit to God for blessings to come, drawing from their own experiences.
Wrestling, Persistence, and Resilience Discussed
In the meeting, Dennis shared a personal story about wrestling with a friend, Steve, and how it taught him about persistence and the importance of not quitting. He also mentioned a quote from Pastor Gregory Paul, "I will not quit. Therefore I cannot be defeated." Patrick then shared his thoughts on wrestling with God, emphasizing the importance of technical expertise, strength, and willpower. He also discussed the story of a moose standing up against a steam train, drawing parallels to Jacob's persistence with God. Manny ended the conversation by reflecting on the resilience of Joseph, attributing it to his father's teachings and experiences.
Jacob's Transformation and Prayer Requests
Manny led the meeting, emphasizing the importance of transformation and living for God. He shared insights from the story of Jacob, highlighting the significance of a new name and the need to let go of the past. Manny also encouraged the brothers to share their thoughts and prayers, and Elvin prayed for a brother struggling with addiction and a surgical procedure. The conversation ended with a sense of unity and a call to persevere in their faith.
Seeking Guidance and Vulnerability
Manny expressed his desire to have more vulnerable and encouraging men around him, especially young men who need guidance. Elvin shared his experience of helping a young man who was struggling with the weight of responsibility and the need for transparency. Patrick discussed Jacob's story from the Bible, emphasizing the importance of holding onto God's promises and trusting in His blessings. Dennis ended the conversation with a prayer, expressing gratitude for God's blessings and encouragement to continue growing in wisdom and faith.
Holding Onto One's Birthright
In the meeting, Dennis shared a story about a Sunday school teacher's joke about Esau and Jacob, highlighting the importance of holding onto one's birthright. Patrick then elaborated on the contrast between Esau and Jacob, emphasizing the need to hold onto one's birthright and not give up due to hunger or other desires. Manny agreed, emphasizing the importance of God's promises and the need to release anger onto God rather than others. The group also discussed the importance of seeking God's guidance in all situations and learning from Christ's life. The conversation ended with a reflection on the significance of Valentine's Day, the day of love, and the importance of learning to love.
Practicing Forgiveness for Healing Relationships
Patrick emphasized the importance of loving and forgiving others, even when they may be irritating or frustrating. He suggested that this approach could help heal others' wounds and prevent further hurt. Manny agreed, sharing his experience of practicing forgiveness with his technicians at work. He noted that this approach not only improved their work relationships but also helped the technicians overcome their struggles with affirmation. Both Patrick and Manny concluded that practicing forgiveness is a crucial aspect of showing love and helping others.
Perseverance, Faith, and Wrestling With God
In the meeting, Manny shared his personal experience of perseverance and faith in God, emphasizing the importance of not giving up even when faced with challenges. Juan and Elvin also shared their experiences of trials and the importance of forgiveness and perseverance. The group discussed the concept of wrestling with God and the need to stay in the fight. They also discussed the idea of seeking God's presence throughout the day and the importance of not settling for the first offering or the initial message. The group ended the conversation with a prayer for blessings and a hope to see each other again the next morning.
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